unknown song comments

Date Added: 4/7/2008
Added By: Charles B
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Identified: Not Yet!

From Charles B, 4/7/2008 8:45:22 AM:

Recorded in 1991 off of CFNY. The corus goes as "Ride this wave forever"

Other lyrics are:

i have seen winds of change
*** the weathered all the pain
cause you know
you only got the sound to blame


From Hunter Rose, 12/15/2008 7:39:41 AM:

That's it! I've been looking for that for over a decade!!!

Who is it?

Anyone?
Anyone?


From Hunter Rose, 2/2/2013 5:18:22 AM:

Still nothing... Wow.


From Hunt for the song., 3/9/2014 12:29:57 AM:

I think I have this on cassette tape somewhere, but I haven't found it since a flood took so much.
Can anyone on FB help?

This isn't a crucial or medical matter, but one of culture. Spoiled as we are by our presumed access to everything, it's easy to forget what has been lost to history due to a lack of curiosity.
Can we bring this one out of the Memory Hole?


From The True Grendel, 1/1/2020 11:08:35 PM:

This makes me sad.


From nonoseacrest, 2/28/2021 1:37:16 PM:

hi Charles. do you have a longer sample, or possibly the full song? you could upload to vocaroo.com if you do and post the link here


From Charles B, 2/28/2021 11:51:21 PM:

Yes. I should be able to do that.


From Charles B, 3/1/2021 9:06:39 AM:

https://voca.ro/15sQ9zQbLAkm


From Charles B, 3/1/2021 9:31:08 AM:

Additional Notes: First recorded off the radio in early 1991. Either from CFNY or CFMU.


From nonoseacrest, 3/1/2021 10:46:58 AM:

thank you very much!


From nonoseacrest, 8/20/2021 3:22:50 PM:

autumn is here, [ask] why the leaves [wilting], dying
shed mythical tears for forever skies
wave station calls out to all who will listen
the truth that we cannot deny
smokescreen summers cast shadows of life
meaning lost in my mind
[feel for] souls in the wink of an eye
then it's gone, gone, gone

ride this wave forever

[?] with [?]
transient wave springs back into minds
quality sounds out to all who will listen
it�s a truth that is one of a kind
[sun sweet] endless with unwilling jest
taking, [tolling the arm]
lost in the touch of a dream gone by
say, yeah

ride this wave forever

I have seen winds of change
although they�ve weathered all the pain
�cause you know
you�ve only got yourself to blame

autumn is gone, [?] frost with a [?]
as blanketing snow falls �cross grain fields
illusion flickers with twilight�s glowing
and night must to morning yield
those who are lucky claim time to love
they�re smiling and lost in sleep
looking at the [doubt] light


From nonoseacrest, 8/20/2021 3:27:01 PM:

...deep in your [hand]
and it�s dead, dead, dead

ride this wave forever

(finishing lyrics too long to fit in 1 comment)


From Howard, 9/8/2021 1:31:34 PM:

This sounds like a band called The Watchmen from Toronto. They did a demo tape and a few shows around the city in mostly small clubs. I think they may have played Sneaky Dees, the Elmocombo and Lee's Palace.


From Charles B, 9/16/2021 12:05:25 PM:

Well, if it is, it doesn't appear on their first album. It's a good song, so I think it must be another band.


From nonoseacrest, 9/22/2021 2:06:01 PM:

Charles, at the end of the full song, the DJ starts speaking "CFNY: The-" Similar to your Suns of One song, can you remember if they announced any song or band name before or after this? Do you remember who the DJ was? If you still have the tape this was on, that could be helpful as well. A group of us are looking for your 3 songs, ride this wave, monster of love, and independence day


From nonoseacrest, 9/22/2021 2:09:15 PM:

Alan Cross also wrote about these 3 songs here: https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/


From Charles B, 9/22/2021 10:38:48 PM:

I think I do have the tapes somewhere, but finding them could take some time. It was on a tape I labeled 1991-01 Side A. They could be up in the loft in my garage. I just hope my wife didn't toss them at some point. LOL.


From C. Schitz Popino, 10/24/2021 4:33:54 PM:

Nonoseacrest,

The Dj is Alan Cross, himself.

either I've heard this song before on CFNY.
Or it is so good that I want to kepp listening to it.
I've probably listen to it twenty something times now.



From C. Schitz Popinov, 10/24/2021 4:35:34 PM:

Nonoseacrest,

The Dj is Alan Cross, himself.

Either I've heard this song before on CFNY.
Or it is so good that I want to keep listening to it.
I've probably listen to it twenty something times now.


From Kate, 12/6/2021 9:45:14 AM:

I've been wondering if it is actually a song from a 70s british psychedelic rock band that was re-released in the 90s. Apparently this was a thing. Maybe that's why it's been so hard to find.


From Colin, 12/6/2021 3:42:37 PM:

Kate - I am thinking it's a Manchester band - a lot of Madchester bands had a big 70's psychedelic vibe


From OhSoSally, 12/6/2021 4:19:08 PM:

The first one sounds like Blue Oyster Cult.


From Johnny, 12/12/2021 5:29:09 PM:

Alan Cross is still alive (god bless) - did anyone ask him about this song yet?


From Area time, 12/14/2021 1:56:24 AM:

@Johnny, somebody already did https://www.ajournalofmusicalthings.com/interested-in-solving-some-musical-mysteries-try-to-identify-these-songs/ he doesn�t know unfortunately :(


From Jake, 6/3/2022 3:08:33 PM:

Could this be "Winds of Change" by the band Conspiracy? It was on the 1990 cassette called Under Siege. Progressive metal.


From C. Schitz Popinov, 6/7/2022 9:27:52 PM:

This was the only band that I could find.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(band)


From C. Schitz Popinov, 6/7/2022 9:30:04 PM:

I really want to know who the artist is and the album this song is off of, as well.


From Charles B, 6/7/2022 9:42:36 PM:

Unfortunately with a name like Conspiracy and a song like "Winds of Change" it is nearly impossible to find anything that is not the Scorpions on Google. All I could find was an image of the cassette "Under Siege".
I think that band is different than the one from the wiki article about. See https://www.discogs.com/release/23371607-Conspiracy-Under-Siege-


From A different Johnny, 6/17/2022 6:37:32 PM:

The wiki article is about the Chris Squire side project, the output of which is pretty well documented. This song isn't from that. Charles B found the self released cassette by a different "Conspiracy". We need to find a copy and listen to it.


From Samuel Molina, 6/19/2022 10:19:10 PM:

Why this got tagged as an identified song?


From FArt, 7/7/2022 12:12:34 PM:

why the snipet is different of the fuII version?


From Charles B, 7/30/2022 8:19:08 PM:

Not sure why this is marked as identified as it is not. Is there a way to undo that?


From Charles B, 7/30/2022 8:39:08 PM:

I have uploaded the entire song to YouTube. Hopefully that helps get it identified.

https://youtu.be/mAdhjyh8SDk


From Greg Lade, 8/1/2022 4:31:25 PM:

don't have any idea if this will help your search but the singer and lyrics sound a lot like "Shannon Hoon" of Blind melon ;-) the time lines could line up for this to be a one off riff with members of blind melon and Guns N' Roses?


From KindlePop, 8/16/2022 7:11:36 PM:

Possibly unrelated, but it seems Conspiracy has another album called "Cannot Be Tamed" (source: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Conspiracy/119368). I can't find it anywhere on the Internet, however.


From rollback27, 2/28/2023 7:18:03 PM:

this song is so good that it doens't deserve to be unidentified

in terms of what the song can be, i'm not sure


From Clint5740, 8/28/2023 11:14:18 PM:

After seeing this on LostWaveFinder's youtube, I popped a tweet to (supposed) Conspiracy's keyboardist, Steve Porcaro. No response.
I sent a email to Joe Gastwist, Conspiracy's master-er, who worked on all of their albums. Also worked on Yes' albums, which ties into third point. Sadly, he has no recollection of this song, since it has been a few years. Based in LA.

Crossposting: "According to progarchives, (which used the original website for Conspiracy, now defunct, for their description), Conspiracy was a Crossover Prog band from the UK. Did I mention that it was founded by Chris Squire, the bassist for influential prog rock band Yes, as well as Billy Sherwood, who was also a prog artist?

As well as this, on the discography for self-titled "Conspiracy' (which although was released in 2000, still relavant) by Squire was recorded/ mixed in a place titled "The Office / The Bunker / The Living Room, which upon a google search, shows a few candidates for where it might've been reco


From Clint5740, 8/28/2023 11:27:27 PM:

Continued:
ecorded. It could've also been Squire's personal studio, quote Discogs
"Studio that was located in Virginia Water, Surrey, UK. Also called New Pipers Studio�

Another studio Squire knew of was under Genesis' Steve Hackett's place - "Steve also has a studio in Twickenham, so we recorded my bass parts there� quote Squire himself. Squire and Hackett formed a duo called Squackett at one point, which could further stipulate this.
It was likely mastered at Oceanview Digital Mastering in LA, as with many other Yes albums, by Joe Gastwist, who worked there at the time and is credited on the Conspiracy credits.


From TMW, 11/16/2023 8:58:12 AM:

Definitely born out of the early 90s "Madchester" scene, even if not geographically from the English northwest. Instantly recognizable sound to anyone who was into the scene at the time. Relative to other lost songs this one should be easier to solve: "Winds Of Change" almost certainly takes its cue from the expression popularized by The Scorpions after January 1991, when the band released their hit by the same name, to commemorate the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989. The expression became popular even among non-metal audiences and the general population. This also agrees with the timing of the "Madchester" sound which began in October 1988 with "Elephant Stone," peaked in 1989-1991 and continued until late 1994. By 1995 it had morphed into Brit Pop. You could still find "Madchester" releases in 1995 but they were in steady decline. Imo the sound combined with the reference to "Winds of Change" places the song around 1991-1992.


From TMW, 11/17/2023 3:21:52 AM:

Representative "Madchester" sampler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFBQ0PH5rM4&list=PL0AhlALpo_yB5OdcBe_0q0xor5JIorP2s


From Thomas, 12/12/2023 6:42:02 AM:

Hi dear music community what do you think can it be that the song "Rise this wave forever" is called?
Or the title is in the text passage:
"i have seen winds of change
* * * the weathered all the pain
cause you know
you only got the sound to blame "

In addition, I noticed that 2 times at the beginning of a text paragraph is sung about "autumn."
That could be the song title.
I often go on Watzat Song and there have been songs to my ears again and again, where the title of the song has been very well hidden.
Greetings Thomas


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