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Humble and Fred ... No more

Post by guest » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:39 pm

So where is Fred going next?


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Post by A.T. » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:35 pm

What happened to Fred? I don't listen to Mix 99.9.


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Post by Guest » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:23 pm

Fred is gone as of Thursday this week.
It's just Humble now

another guest

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Post by another guest » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:05 am

I bet that now "Freddie P" is now gone
it will be a matter of time that the current MIX morning show format will now be gone in October.


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Post by Melissa » Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:43 pm

So...what happened? Was he fired? Did he leave?


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Post by Gerald » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:03 pm

Not sure...does anyone know?

general knowledge

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Post by general knowledge » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:08 pm

There is a shake up happening in Toronto Morning Radio ... Erin Davis and Mike Cooper coming to CHFI. Leaving and opening at EZ Rock. What happens to the current morning talent at CHFI?
who knows?

And then last Thursday Morning Humble makes an announcement that Fred has decided to move on to "other opportunities".
Humble sounded pretty lost at the time.


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Post by Tom » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:41 pm

This is so frustratingly typical of Toronto radio (and probably all radio markets). Radio stations never let their popular personalities say good-bye on air before leaving their show let alone letting their loyal fan base know where they can find them next.

Why? I'm almost embarrassed to say. It's because the radio stations have this pathological fear that the said radio personality will go off on a profane tirade against the station. How silly is that? If that personality has any kind of brain at all, and, if that personality wants to stay in radio (or have any kind of career in the public eye)don't you think their on air good bye would be amicable?

I remember when Jeff Brown left Q107. There was no mention of it anywhere on the air, 107's website or the internet. Thank God John Derringer finally let Jeff's fans know what had happened.

John Oakley is another example that springs to mind. I can't remember anyone at cfrb mentioning his unceremonious departure either.

I guess we'll somehow find out what happened to Fred sooner or later. But, the obvious point is his old radio station should have made some type of announcement informing loyal listeners what had happened.

I mean can you imagine sitting next to your co-worker for years and then coming in one day and not even being informed that they have left? Stranger still. Can you imagine your boss pretending that your co-worker never even worked for the company by staying silent about the whole thing???

I think it's high time that radio stations grow up and let soon-to-be-former employees say their good byes to the fans who have enjoyed their talents through the years. Not doing so is nothing less than a slap in the face to the loyal fan base that puts money into the radio station's coffers.

Am I alone in feeling this way?


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Post by Carly » Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:36 pm

Fred was an original at CFNY. He deserves a lot better than this. I e-mailed Humble Howard and he has yet to reply. I think that everyone should send Humble an e-mail. His address is:

Jason Paris

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Post by Jason Paris » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:38 pm

Very unfortunate, and perhaps another in the long litany of reasons that people really don't "conect" with a radio station (or radio in general) anymore.


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Post by mchammer » Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:21 am

Tom, I agree. I also think that they don't mention it on the air because they (The mix) are worried that it may effect the upcoming ratings or status-quo. They hope that no one will notice. Radio might as well be dj-less nowadays anyway, since hardly any of them have anything to say or are not allowed to say anything.


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Post by GT » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:24 pm

Hey does anyone remember Dani's sign off... it was great! Perfect example of why (any) management will not allow for someone to sign off.
When was the last time you were 'right-sized' and management allowed you to announce it to your co-workers?


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Post by Sammi » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:27 pm

So...does anyone know what happened?


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Post by Guest » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:06 pm

Here what was said on September 6 2005 in a Toronto Star article. Writen by Vinay Menon

" "Howard humbled, Fred fired
Anemic ratings split MIX morning team"

Call it the end of an era.
The Humble and Fred Show, a durable fixture in Toronto radio for 16 years, is no more. Fred Patterson, co-host for the MIX 99.9 morning team, was quietly fired two weeks ago.
"I can live with it," says Patterson. "No hard feelings. I'll just have to find something else to do."
Patterson and co-conspirator Howard Glassman first joined forces in 1989 on CFNY (now The Edge). In 2001, the pair moved to MOJO, when the "talk radio for guys" station launched.
In 2003, they were signed to a 5-year contract at the MIX. For whatever reason - and nobody has a good one - the show never drew a large audience.
In the most recent ratings book, it ranked a dismal 13th. Given these disappointing numbers, management brought in consultants as various options were considered.
But, desperate to shake up the program, they relieved Patterson of his duties.
"That's the sad thing for me - the end of The Humble and Fred Show," he says, still trying to make sense of his first termination in 26 years. "Working with Howard for all those years was a fabulous experience. It just seems weird to not be getting up to go to work in the morning. Because if it was up to me, that's what I'd be doing."
Glassman remains with the MIX, leading a rechristened Humble Howard Morning Show.
"We had a great relationship, on the air and off the air," says Glassman, of his run with Patterson. "And we did some great radio that nobody ever heard."
This, you see, is a story about perception and reality. With an iconic status and legions of followers, many fans wrongly assumed The Humble and Fred Show was a top-rated program.
In truth, it was struggling for years. Between the fall of 1995 to the spring of 1997, Humble and Fred were No.1 in the 18-34 demographic. Then Howard Stern stormed into the market and the Canadian jokesters never recovered.
For Glassman, last month's forced separation was painful, awkward and sad. But not entirely unexpected.
"I was shocked and I was stunned but I wasn't surprised," he says. "We hadn't been doing well for some time and they were searching for answers for some time. I was pretty convinced we were both going to get fired, sooner or later, if things didn't improve."
At other stations, the lads had a reasonable excuse for weak numbers - they were working inside niche formats. The Edge played modern music, not something everybody wants first thing in the morning. MOJO, by contrast, played no music.
So expectations were decidedly high when Humble and Fred came to the MIX.
"I looked at this as a huge opportunity to finally be on a more level playing ground and it just didn't materialize," says Glassman. "I don't know. It's just weird."
What do fans make of this? Last week, Glassman gave out his personal cellphone number on the air. He's been deluged with calls.
Some listeners say they will not listen to a show without Patterson.
Others say the show must go on and they like what Glassman is doing.
Most callers, however, just want to satisfy their curiosity and pledge continued support.
"The passion they have for the show is unbelievable," says Glassman, who was a solo morning man at the MIX in 1991, after a brief split from Patterson and CFNY.
"I have a pretty personal relationship with these people. I've been reminded of that a lot in recent weeks. But they also feel like kids in a divorce, in a strange way.
"Other than Roger, Rick and Marilyn (the venerable morning team at CHUM FM), Fred and I have been together in this market for a long time. Even though we haven't done very well, the people who like us, they love us. So it's hard for them."
For Patterson, the future is unclear. But his sense of humour endures. I ask what he plans to do next.
"I was thinking about becoming an astronaut or a nuclear physicist or a psychologist," he says.
"One of those." "


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Post by doodie » Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:29 pm

You know the statement of
"management brought in consultants as various options were considered"

I find the most interesting.

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